"dogisbadob" (dogisbadob)
10/22/2019 at 14:25 • Filed to: None
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"dogisbadob" (dogisbadob)
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Charging an EV in the rain s
ounds scary. A roof to keep it dry would help a lot
Aremmes
> dogisbadob
10/22/2019 at 14:31 |
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On a similar vein, why are
charging ports on electric cars angled upwards? One would hope they'd be angled downwards to keep water from pooling in them.
Michael
> dogisbadob
10/22/2019 at 14:32 |
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Roofs are expensive, require different permits
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dogisbadob
> Aremmes
10/22/2019 at 14:33 |
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I didn’t know that!
jimz
> dogisbadob
10/22/2019 at 14:33 |
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1) you don’t stand next to the car while it’s recharging
2) the charger doesn’t start delivering power to the vehicle until after the charger data wire “handshakes” with the car and negotiates the desired charge power level.
sm70- why not Duesenberg?
> dogisbadob
10/22/2019 at 14:37 |
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A few do, but yeah, most don’t. My best guess would be to reduce the cost of installing them, or maybe it’s zoning/permit related. But I really don’t know.
facw
> dogisbadob
10/22/2019 at 14:44 |
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Aren’t the roofs on gas stations as much about having a place to mount fire suppression gear as comfort?
And with an EV, you aren’t going to stand out there to pump anyway.
Gerry197
> dogisbadob
10/22/2019 at 14:49 |
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I’ve seen some with roofs, but most don’t have them. I believe the reason why is most are setup in areas that wasn’t designed to fuel a vehicle, with the normal convenience store setup as gas that probably have the permits/space for a roof setup. Most charging setups are at the end of a parking lot or something similar.
Also, filling up with gasoline only takes a few minutes while you wait next to the pump to finish. Most Teslas will take at least 20 minutes if not longer, so you will likely not stand next to the car. Probably either sitting inside it or getting food, etc.
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dogisbadob
> facw
10/22/2019 at 14:49 |
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I honestly have no idea about the fire suppression gear, but wouldn’t an EV and supercharger need that too? And electrical fires are even worse!
Even if you’re not standing out and pumping, I don’t like the idea of wet charging cords fully exposed to the rain and snow. And someone else pointed out that EV charging ports are slanted upwards, where water could pool.
davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com
> dogisbadob
10/22/2019 at 14:55 |
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If you put a rain canopy over one, you have to put one over 12,000+ in 1,400+ locations...
$$$$$
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dogisbadob
> Gerry197
10/22/2019 at 14:58 |
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I’m
more concerned with high-voltage power lines getting wet and constantly connected/disconnected And someone else on here pointed out that EV charging ports on the car point upwards, allowing water to pool.
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facw
> dogisbadob
10/22/2019 at 15:03 |
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I expect EV charging fires are much rarer than gas fires, and less likely for the whole station to go up. I assume the charging system is designed to adequately resist water, but who knows.
Tekamul
> dogisbadob
10/22/2019 at 15:14 |
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Try plugging in an EV sometime. Rain is not really a concern. As long as you’re not submerging the thing you’re fine.
As for the roof, people are not going to hang around while it charges, it’s not really necessary.
This is what we'll show whenever you publish anything on Kinja:
> dogisbadob
10/22/2019 at 15:18 |
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I’d figure the canopies would be covered in solar panels and or windmills.
Really though, with the amount of time it takes to currently charge, what we need is an outlet at every parking stall. Simplify this whole process. Instead of having all of these obscure private members only charging networks,standardize and interconnect them all. If you own the car you assign it a payment method. The car authenticates when plugged in, you use what juice you use, the money comes out and everything is seamless. This hide and seek and hope for the best system really doesn’t breed confidence.
Obviously not something that can or should be done overnight, but as adaption rates rise it might make sense to begin making small yet ever increasing parts of each lot designated for EV’s only. At least until so many stalls are electrified and so few ICE vehicles are left that it wouldn’t matter. Assuming that’s the trend for the future.
Oh, and here’s why “they’ll” love it. The rates can va
ry by lot and location. Pick your poison. Surge pricing? Congestion Pricing? You name it, they’ll find a way to fleece you because of it.
Convenient though.
HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles
> facw
10/22/2019 at 15:38 |
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Neither of the stations I worked at had anything like that. One of them wasn’t that old, I think it was built in 07.
wafflesnfalafel
> Gerry197
10/22/2019 at 15:53 |
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yeah - many around here are in parking garages already. We have three in the garage at work - always a Tesla or two and sometimes a Leaf hooked up sucking juice...
Thomas Donohue
> dogisbadob
10/22/2019 at 17:08 |
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EV charging stations aren’t money-makers, s o any added convenience is just an unnecessary expense. At destinations, t hey are designed to entice people to go spend money while they wait (i.e. no covered benches for you to read a book) . They’d prefer you charge your car at home, in your garage, using your own electricity.
As far as safety, I assume (hope!) they’ve figured that out, and charging doesn’t start until any water is drained from the connection area. Not sure about all cars, but I don’t think I’ve seen one that would become flooded with three inches of water.
Spanfeller is a twat
> dogisbadob
10/22/2019 at 17:46 |
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You shouldn’t be....
There’s no high-voltage power unless the handshake is made successfully. I’d be far more worried about personal stations having issues.
Having an issue because of rain would be as likely as a modern
gas station blowing up because you left your engine running.
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dogisbadob
> Thomas Donohue
10/22/2019 at 17:48 |
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Too bad that charging port is pointed up. It looks like water could pool there. They should’ve made it point down
An
d gas stations
aren’
t money-makers, either. That’s why they usually have a convenience store or mechanic garage attached to them
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Spanfeller is a twat
> dogisbadob
10/22/2019 at 17:58 |
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each socket is individually separated from each other
with plastic... it would be very,very
hard to cause a short circuit at the port.
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Thomas Donohue
> dogisbadob
10/22/2019 at 18:04 |
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Too bad that charging port is pointed up. It looks like water could pool there. They should’ve made it point down
Unless you poured water into that receptacle with a cup, it’s not an issue. If it was we’d have seen recalls and lots of news about people getting fried. Again, it doesn’t start charging until everything is safe.
If you’re afraid of water, then you won’t want to be holding the plug facing up either in the rain , as the plug is actually connected to the grid.
Gas stations do make money (they aren’t owned by car manufactur er s) , but yes, they make much more money when attached to a store or service station.